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tacitI had a pennyplainknits today! I did my best to incept her into Teen Wolf. For those of us (cough dodificus cough) who are "still living through the period of confusion prior to the inevitability of falling in love with Stiles" (see primer!), here are my recommendations for what newbies should be forced to watch/read (all spoilery):
Teen Wolf 101 primer by Hello Tailor: "My life was empty and barren, a tragic wasteland wherein I laboured under the assumption that Teen Wolf was a mediocre MTV show populated by a cast of bad actors with great hair. The real honest true truth is that every actor in Teen Wolf has brilliant comic timing (in addition to, yes, great hair), and one of the main characters is played by a guy who, despite having zero previous acting experience, is so talented his that his very presence onscreen is like an icecream scoop directly out of my heart. "
Teen Wolf: Disney Crack edition vid by Asreeshadowskeeper which is fabulous until the very last scene when it becomes epically apt and amazing.
The Teen Wolf Series one gag reel The whole cast is completely adorable. I normally cringe at anything to do with the actors who play the characters in my favourite shows, but these guys are too cute and I am a little bit in love with their little troupe.
Call Me Maybe vid by asreeshadowskeeper - A vid containing a lot of the slashy parts of series one. I'm a big Stiles/Derek fan, but I've got to admit that pretty much all of the guys in this show have slashy moments with pretty much everyone else. IT IS THAT KIND OF SHOW.
A vid by Kreugan which basically takes the piss out of series one, and is adorable. There is a lurking montage! <3
I've linked this before, but this is the beginning of the scene which takes thecredit blame for me transitioning from having TW on in the background while I did other things to me desperately refreshing my torrents to see if Monday has miraculously happened while I wasn't looking. 1x09
In other news, I find the exclamations in all of my Twitter notifications really obnoxious. Someone replied to your tweet!!!! Someone mentioned you!!! Man, Twitter is so affection-starved.
pennyplainknits today! I did my best to incept her into Teen Wolf. For those of us (cough dodificus cough) who are "still living through the period of confusion prior to the inevitability of falling in love with Stiles" (see primer!), here are my recommendations for what newbies should be forced to watch/read (all spoilery):Teen Wolf 101 primer by Hello Tailor: "My life was empty and barren, a tragic wasteland wherein I laboured under the assumption that Teen Wolf was a mediocre MTV show populated by a cast of bad actors with great hair. The real honest true truth is that every actor in Teen Wolf has brilliant comic timing (in addition to, yes, great hair), and one of the main characters is played by a guy who, despite having zero previous acting experience, is so talented his that his very presence onscreen is like an icecream scoop directly out of my heart. "
Teen Wolf: Disney Crack edition vid by Asreeshadowskeeper which is fabulous until the very last scene when it becomes epically apt and amazing.
The Teen Wolf Series one gag reel The whole cast is completely adorable. I normally cringe at anything to do with the actors who play the characters in my favourite shows, but these guys are too cute and I am a little bit in love with their little troupe.
Call Me Maybe vid by asreeshadowskeeper - A vid containing a lot of the slashy parts of series one. I'm a big Stiles/Derek fan, but I've got to admit that pretty much all of the guys in this show have slashy moments with pretty much everyone else. IT IS THAT KIND OF SHOW.
A vid by Kreugan which basically takes the piss out of series one, and is adorable. There is a lurking montage! <3
I've linked this before, but this is the beginning of the scene which takes the
In other news, I find the exclamations in all of my Twitter notifications really obnoxious. Someone replied to your tweet!!!! Someone mentioned you!!! Man, Twitter is so affection-starved.
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Date: 2012-07-27 09:03 pm (UTC)Plus, lame werewolves, as I've mentioned before:/
Did Penny leave fully converted? Or did you fail in your mission? I wont lie, I would kill for some TW podfic as read by her:D
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Date: 2012-07-27 09:22 pm (UTC)You could... I don't know, start with season 2? But it is so
ridiculousfabulous! You should see it allll!#sobbing #and rending of hair #pleeeeeeassseee?
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Date: 2012-07-27 09:40 pm (UTC)But Stiles/Derek or Stiles/Jackson will never beeeeee:(( Wouldn't I just be frustrated a lot?
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Date: 2012-07-27 09:48 pm (UTC)I just really love that it's not the Twilighty response to finding shed loads of photos of yourself. But that she still feels like she has to apologise for knocking him down. FEELINGS.
I can't believe I am actually saying this but I am not watching the show for the slash at this point. I genuinely heart it, and think all of the characters are wonderful.
Although I am extra happy when Stiles and Derek are on screen together. Particularly when there are abs.
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Date: 2012-07-27 09:44 pm (UTC)And I can't make podfic at all at the moment, TW or otherwise :(
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Date: 2012-07-27 09:51 pm (UTC)http://thevault.dreamwidth.org/tag/tv:+teen+wolf
Hmm. Dodificus, am I reading it wrong or are we indeed missing 1x01 through 1x09? I can upload...
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Date: 2012-07-28 12:42 am (UTC)#patheticandnneedy
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Date: 2012-07-27 09:26 pm (UTC)And the brilliance that is Stiles - I read someone (possibly Hello Tailor? I don't remember) say that Stiles was the comic relief AND the emotional touchstone of the show. HOW IS HE SO AMAZING?!
I... actually love all the characters a little bit. I don't know WHY I love Scott or Jackson, but I kind of do.
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Date: 2012-07-28 02:04 am (UTC)I am CRAZY about Allison lately. I didn't even realize I liked her until a friend was asking me what I remembered about the show (since I'm famous for wandering off to do dishes during fight scenes and then like four episodes later going "Wait, did so-and-so die? Is that why he's not here?") and it was pretty much all Allison.
Stiles is the BEST. UGH STILES WHY SO WONDERFUL.
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Date: 2012-07-28 09:15 am (UTC)I think part of why - most of why - I find Derek so interesting is *because* he is so messed up. I mean, has a really different view of reality from me and that makes me want to keep a wary eye on him. That he feels like he has to blackmail people into not letting him die (when he was shot with the wolfsbane, and in the pool) and he genuinely believes that if he didn't have immediate worth that they just wouldn't bother. And-- I feel like that's a viewpoint he's done to himself; I'm not sure who else could have made him feel that way. I get the impression he's just spinning the same guilt-ridden, grief-struck thoughts around in his head all day, and there's nobody there to break him out of it. And he can't let there be anybody, because look what happened last time?! Ugh, his pain is so epic.
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Date: 2012-07-28 12:16 pm (UTC)So he tries to make a pack, right? Because he wants to survive, and I think secretly wants to belong and be loved, because he's only (mostly) human. But the only things he thinks he has to offer are being really really good-looking (Erica) and doing violence (Isaac). Even though what those kids wanted too was to belong and be loved! Instead he's basically replicated his body ethic at them. (We don't see exactly what he offered Boyd, which makes it hard to parse, but Boyd had already worked out that Derek didn't make a great buddy by the time we found out that he'd gotten bitten).
Poor Derek. He is so messed up! And so bad at things. It makes me much fonder of him than it probably should. He actually tries to come through for Scott, and kind of succeeds, but that's probably because Scott has Stiles to do the actual brain-using part of not dying.
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Date: 2012-07-28 05:22 pm (UTC)I think you're right that a lot of his self-image is tied up in being 'bad'. Maybe he thinks that if he embodies 'bad' then nobody will be able to get close? Maybe it makes him feel safer? Because, in a lot of ways he seems more kid-like than the others, particularly Stiles. He's really lacking in emotional maturity, and quite fixated on only showing a small range of emotions. He obviously HAS those other emotions, as shown when he's with coma!Peter, and when Kate tortures him. I think the softer emotions really freak him out though, after what Kate did to him when he was younger, and how she used his vulnerability. So he represses them in favour of this grumpy growly front. He probably doesn't even think it's a front - I don't think he's particularly self-aware.
He's like an abused puppy and I just want Stiles and the Sheriff to adopt him.
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Date: 2012-07-28 10:27 pm (UTC)I mean, does Derek know anyone who doesn't think he's a scary murderer on some level? Has he since his family died? Maybe he's putting out what people have wanted from him since he's a teenager. But right now he's pretty much the last surviving member of an entire culture, that must be just ungodly isolating. I'd be pretty guarded too.
Man, the thing is, on the one hand yessss and then cook him dinner, Stiles! Yay! but on the other hand I kind of wonder if Derek would accept being adopted at this point. I kind of feel like his attempts to help Scott are also his attempts to redeem his own younger self, the one who didn't get the help he needed at that age. It's definitely a part of his life where he acts altruistically, whereas Derek thinks everyone needs a clear life-and-death reason for helping Derek.
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Date: 2012-07-28 11:19 pm (UTC)Yeah, Derek and Isaac have such similar abandonment damage in a lot of ways and it makes me sad that Derek isn't supporting Isaac. I feel like it could be a way for him to help himself as well - I'm apparently all about the projection issues with the pack! I don't really know what Boyd represents because we've seen so little of him. I did feel like Derek was quite grounded around Boyd in the episode at the rave. Maybe he's more of an aspirational aspect?
Wow, I have been blithely going with the fanon assumption that there are werewolves aplenty just waiting to come and cause trouble, but what if he really is amongst the last of the species? If the Argents have always moved cities to hunt, then I guess there aren't a lot of wolves in commuting distance. Or, even if they aren't so rare, he's the only one in town and, yes, so isolating! It certainly doesn't seem like he has any elders or authority figures from his old life to turn to for advice or help about wolfy matters. D:
No, I agree, he totally wouldn't be able to accept anyone's help and that's part of the pathology that makes him need the help so badly. I like the idea that he's living out some sort of rewrite of his own late adolescence through Scott. The saddest thing is that he *is* basically a good person and he *does* do altruistic things, but he feels like none of it has any worth. At some point, will he just snap? Or, is that what happened when he was turning teenagers willy nilly?
tl;dr at will - I am also lacking in people to obsess at!
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Date: 2012-07-28 11:51 pm (UTC)I just - I want Scott and Stiles to get custody of Isaac. I do. I think Scott's doofy earnestness could win Isaac's trust, and I honestly think that while Derek might be mad about it at first, it might eventually lead to Derek being able to trust Scott (and then Stiles, since I do want to see Team Sterek have their day, I just think it requires some groundwork from where we are right now).
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Date: 2012-07-29 10:11 pm (UTC)Dodificus mentioned this morning that she wanted to read more Peter/Stiles fic, and I'm kinda struggling to get my head around it ever being believable. But, while I was contemplating that, I realised that I CAN actually see Derek/Peter. Because, Peter's more powerful, Peter knows Derek and Derek's world well, and I can't imagine that Derek doesn't have times when he wants to just submit and let someone else take care of everything. Does the sanity of knowing that Peter is bonkers always override how out of his depth he is, the loneliness? It would be SO DARK though.
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Date: 2012-07-29 10:38 pm (UTC)I mean I tend not to ship intergenerational relative ships but this one I think Derek would just, like, put his head on Peter's shoulder and be like WE TALKED ABOUT HAIR PRODUCTS FOR FIVE HOURS. HOW IS THIS MY LIFE. And Peter would be like shh, shh, soon the world will be ours and you won't have to do that ever again.
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Date: 2012-07-30 12:07 am (UTC)This is a side of the ship I didn't see before but NOW I WANT IT SO BAD:DD
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Date: 2012-07-30 11:26 pm (UTC)I actually think that if I was casting these guys as Buffy characters, then Peter would be the creepy, dissociative one who talked through dolls; Derek would be the brooding, angst-ridden, occasionally violent Angel; and Stiles would be the one trying to keep the craziness under the radar, wishing he didn't love them both so much, and saying, 'You can't see the stars, love. That's the ceiling. Also, it's day.'
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Date: 2012-07-31 03:01 am (UTC)Synchronised high dive was so cool but then like 50% of my country's mens' gymnastics team cried. Poor gymnasts! It is okay! You are still better at gymnastics than everyone else in the world who didn't go to the Olympics!
And spoiler blackout until I can watch the episode tomorrow morning starts... now.
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